Last week, Fourth Generation war paid a visit to Ferguson, Missouri. I am not speaking of the rioting, looting, and burning; elements in the black urban community have for decades used any incident as an excuse to riot. There is an element of 4GW in other blacks lining up with the looters and arsonists against law enforcement, even though it is their own neighborhoods, stores, and even churches that go up in flames. But what happened in Ferguson was much more powerful than that, in terms ofthe future toward which it points.
This time, when the state failed to perform its duty of protecting persons and property, armed volunteers did so in its place.
A story in the Sunday, November 30 New York Times, “On Rooftops of Ferguson, Volunteers–With Guns,” has major significance for the arrival of 4GW in this country. The Times reported that
Under the auspices of a national group called the Oath Keepers, Mr. (Sam) Andrews accelerated plans to recruit and organize private security details for businesses in Ferguson, which are receiving the services free. The volunteers, who are sometimes described as a citizen militia–but do not describe themselves that way–have taken up armed positions on rooftops here on recent nights…
On its website, Oath Keepers released a recruiting message to “all skilled veterans and patriots” and asked them to “grab your gear and start rolling toward Ferguson…”
That some business owners accepted aid from a group regarded by some as an anti-government militia is a testament to the rawness of emotions here…
To use one of John Boyd’s favorite phrases, that is very interesting. To the best of my knowledge, it is the first 21st century case in the U.S. of a militia stepping in to keep order when the state fails. It is what we see happening regularly in other parts of the world where the state has disintegrated, but I did not expect it quite so soon on our own soil.
If we wish to halt the rise of militias here, we need to focus, not on the militias, but on the reason they arise: the failure of the state. As Hobbes reminds us, the state came to be for only one reason: to maintain order, i.e., safety of persons and property. When the state is no longer able or willing to do that, other entities must take its place. The first requirement of any society is order, because without order life is nasty, brutish, and short.
Just ask small business owners in Ferguson what happens without order. The Times quoted one of them, Mr. Davis Vo, owner of a Chinese restaurant, saying “When they’re here (The Oath Keepers), there’s definitely a weight lifted off of our shoulders. I’d be lying if I said otherwise.”
There is no question that last Monday, the state failed in Ferguson. The Times quoted the mayor of a local community that was damaged Monday night as saying, “The governor said himself, I think on TV, that the businesses will be protected by the National Guard during this situation. Unfortunately, that did not happen until Tuesday. But we were expecting it to happen on Monday.”
The more interesting question is why the state failed. The proximate cause is probably the Governor’s reluctance to make a decision. But behind that, at the moral level of war, lies something more powerful, something that points to more failure by the state to maintain order.
The Establishment’s official narrative concerning so-called “black rage” is that it is an understandable response to racism, injustice, and oppression. In other words, morally, the looters and arsonists are in the right. If that is the case, how can the state, which is run by the Establishment, not be hesitant and reluctant in its response? At the moral level, the state has emasculated itself.
That narrative is bunk from beginning to end. Cops’ suspicion of blacks, especially young black males, is a direct function of their crime rate. The black rate of violent crime, most committed by young black males, is twelve times the white rate. In Ferguson, the white cope was fighting for his life against a young black male who had assaulted him, trying to grab his gun. Had he succeeded, that white cop would now be dead and no one would have heard of Ferguson, Missouri. The murder of a white cop by an armed black is strictly local news.
Blacks call for justice, but justice is based on facts. If blacks want to be treated by police the same as whites, they need to bring their crime rate down to that of whites. Until they do, treating them differently is a necessity.
If the state is not to see more 4GW from non-blacks as they move to defend themselves from black violence, it needs to respond differently than it did in Ferguson. Once the grand jury had reported, the facts of the case were clear: the cop was in the right and the black who assaulted him had gotten what he asked for. That is justice. No manifestation of “black rage” should have been tolerated. Had I been Governor of Missouri, I would have ordered the National Guard to round up some Civil War cannon from town greens and museums, load them with grape and point them down Ferguson’s main street. A whiff of grape is the traditional answer to rioters, and I suspect it still works. Looters and arsonists would have been shot on sight.
Until the state is once again willing to do its job, the rest of us, like Mr. Vo, will welcome the Oath Keepers. And 4GW will have found a new home. 
Thanks for this, Mr. Lind. I’d observed this happen as well, and noted it as a complete failure on the part of the police agencies to perform what is, really, one of the few legitimate functions of the state, which is the protection of life and property. The Oathkeepers stepped in to do what the cops would (not “could”) not do. The police, in fact, tried to stop the OKs from protecting those businesses. Likely because the OKs were demonstrating openly the unnecessariness of the police.
The State’s legitimacy is also based on the rule of law. It is pointless to ask black people to commit fewer crimes when “Driving while Black” is a crime.
http://www.newsweek.com/ferguson-profiling-police-courts-shooting-264744?piano_t=1
Quote:
Exacerbating the problem, the report says, are “a number of operational procedures that make it even more difficult for defendants to navigate the courts.” A Ferguson court employee reported, for example, that “the bench routinely starts hearing cases 30 minutes before the appointed time and then locks the doors to the building as early as five minutes after the official hour, a practice that could easily lead a defendant arriving even slightly late to receive an additional charge for failure to appear.”
So the state has a series of steps that bring neither order, nor justice, then wonders why those under its thumb don’t think it is legitimate.
And I disagree with “guilty by statistics”. I don’t have to commit a crime, but if some percentile of some group I belong to do, I’m automatically guilty of – I’m not sure what, probably the crimes all the others I’ve never met have committed.
As to the grand jury, it is said a prosecutor can “indict a ham sandwich”. There are no shortage of malicious prosecutions, not just of blacks. Now if there is malice in engaging in prosecution, why should I not believe that (now twice) the prosecutors pulled the punches when the accused was a policeman.
Meanwhile civil forfeiture http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/09/06/stop-and-seize/ http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/08/12/taken doesn’t just happen to blacks and other minorities. Oh, they aren’t guilty, the cops just grab all the cash or other property and you have to fight to get even a part of it back. Is this what a legitimate state does?
The police are the “arms of the law”, long or short. They are the immediate representatives of the “state”. They DO NOT keep order as you’ve shown in this one case, but there is crime everywhere and they “just take a report”. Yet when interacting with police, you are likely to lose your property, be beaten up and subjected to various indignities, and maybe even end up dead. Whether you are innocent or not.
But to return to your point – if the state is legitimate, its parts like the prosecutor and grand jury can be trusted to at least honestly attempt to determine what has happened. If the state has lost its legitimacy, whatever the prosecutor does, and whatever a grand jury decides is not so much a refection of the truth as merely the corrupt result the state desired to obtain.
And isn’t Mr. Lind from the Cleveland area?
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/06/opinion/hope-and-anger-at-the-garner-protests.html?_r=0
QUOTE:
The Justice Department report describes the Cleveland Police Department as something far closer to an occupying military force than a legitimate law enforcement agency. The officers, for example, seem to take a casual view of the use of deadly force, shooting at people who pose no threat of harm to the police or others. In one case in 2013, for example, they actually fired at a victim who had been held captive in a house — as he escaped, clad only in boxer shorts.
The report cataloged numerous incidents of wanton violence, with officers beating, pepper-spraying and Tasering people who were unarmed or had already been restrained. Officers escalated encounters with citizens instead of defusing them, making force all but inevitable.
ENDQUOTE
“A Ferguson court employee reported, for example, that “the bench routinely starts hearing cases 30 minutes before the appointed time and then locks the doors to the building as early as five minutes after the official hour”
Well hey, the judge probably just wants to get a jump on things.
Golf balls don’t hit themselves, after all.
The most acute symptom, and at the same time a root cause, of the failure of the state is its surrender to nonWhites. It has been a deadly act of hubris for us to embrace nonWhite cultures and people. The state’s reaction to this has been to suppress the very White people who make the state, as defined by Western Civilization, possible. Our state is like an immune system that has turned on its own body instead of attacking the nonWhite parasites that are infesting us more and more every year. The Oath Keepers are the first sign of the re-emergence of true blue dick-swinging White Men. Here it comes.
I believe Mr. Lind’s position is incoherent, and misinformed by his highly skewed view of human nature. Permit me to quote chapter 4 of Victoria:
“Property rights don’t mean squat any more,” said Uncle Earl, who was the town lawyer. “The government just tells you what to do or what not to do and dares you to fight them. They have thousands of lawyers, all paid by your tax money, and they can tie you up in court for years. You got a few hundred thousand extra dollars you’d like to spend on legal fees?”
I didn’t, nor did anyone else, I gathered. “So we’re helpless, is what you’re saying?” I asked.
“Pretty much, unless you’ve got a lot of money for lawyers or to buy some politicians and get them in on your side,” said Earl. “It doesn’t even matter if the law is with you, because you can’t afford the fight and they can. If they lose, it means nothing to them; they still get their paychecks from the government. If you lose, you’re finished, and even if you win, you’re usually finished because the legal fight has left you bankrupt. What it comes down to is that we’re not a free country any more.”
“What King George III was doing to us in 1776 wasn’t a hill of beans compared to this,” I said. “We didn’t take it then. Why are we taking it now?”
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Those words, translated into “ebonics,” are repeated endlessly by the black criminals of the inner city. They don’t see themselves as ruffians – they see themselves as heroes, much like the fictional heroes of _Victoria_.
@tz1 – you wrote it better than I could have!
@Lind:
[quote]
No manifestation of “black rage” should have been tolerated. Had I been Governor of Missouri, I would have ordered the National Guard to round up some Civil War cannon from town greens and museums, load them with grape and point them down Ferguson’s main street. A whiff of grape is the traditional answer to rioters, and I suspect it still works. Looters and arsonists would have been shot on sight.
[end quote]
What happened to the Lind who wrote about the “moral level of warfare”? What happened to the Lind who urged soldiers in the Middle East to stop acting like battlefield-warriors and to start acting like Officer Friendly? Officer Friendly never gave anybody a whiff of grapeshot!
If the state is quick to dispel rioters with a whiff of grape, the rioters will turn to foreign powers and say, “Can’t you see that this government lacks legitimacy? Can’t you help us resist this unjust, totalitarian oppression?” And because pseudo-puritan idiocy has promoted a War on Drugs, foreign powers can easily smuggle weapons to urban resisters! The War on Drugs has perfected smuggling, even if much of it is done by the Cocaine Import Army.
Recognizing the failure and folly of the American democratic system is quite a bit different than advocating inner city black crime. The heroes in Victoria are fighting for a higher culture and society that once existed, these black criminals are feeding off of the decay of failed communities that function as a breeding ground for crime out of desperation. They cannot be substantiated as equal and noble causes, as one permeates the mentality of victimization and immoral behavior while the other for a return to traditional western values, laws, and culture. Which would you rather side with?
>Which would you rather side with?
About 250 years ago, there were bold free men who advocated a return to traditional western values, laws, and culture, and to that end they threw some tea into Boston Harbor. Their system was a noble effort while it lasted, but shortly after they took power, they found it necessary to suppress some of their former footsoldiers, such as Daniel Shays and certain whiskey distillers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shays%27_Rebellion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion
My fear is that no matter which side I take, I’ll be used as a foot soldier and then suppressed as a rebel as soon as my usefulness is at an end.
If the state is so small that it could drown to death in a bathtub, then community ties should make riots unnecessary. If the state is large enough to dispel rioters with a whiff of grapeshot, then I fear such a state might do to me what Lon Horiuchi did to Vicki Weaver.
The state needs to be thought of as a tool, rather than an end in itself. It should get its legitimacy by preserving and advancing a people, which includes providing order for them. This would require mowing down the barbarians in the streets.
I liked Lind’s theories on 4GW but it’s sad how he turns out to be a racist prick.
“The Establishment’s official narrative concerning so-called “black rage” is that it is an understandable response to racism, injustice, and oppression. In other words, morally, the looters and arsonists are in the right. If that is the case, how can the state, which is run by the Establishment, not be hesitant and reluctant in its response? At the moral level, the state has emasculated itself.”
Where is this narrative you speak of? When has the Obama administration said that the rioting is justified? You DO realize that this looting and arson came AFTER days of peaceful protests, right? The vast majority of those participating in the events in Ferguson were NOT looters. I could just as easily say that the establishment is pushing a narrative that the Ferguson protests as overly violent instead of focusing on the peaceful protests. Where has the establishment made significant changes in addressing racism in law enforcement? If you’re trying to blanket the establishment as anti-racist, all the evidence points to that being a joke of an argument.
“Blacks call for justice, but justice is based on facts. If blacks want to be treated by police the same as whites, they need to bring their crime rate down to that of whites. Until they do, treating them differently is a necessity.”
I take it you’ve never heard of the war on drugs or prison industrial complex. And if you think the protests are unjustified after the Eric Garner or John Crawford III videos, you’re either some die-hard state apologist, a racist, or just voluntary ignorant.
“. Had I been Governor of Missouri, I would have ordered the National Guard to round up some Civil War cannon from town greens and museums, load them with grape and point them down Ferguson’s main street. A whiff of grape is the traditional answer to rioters, and I suspect it still works. Looters and arsonists would have been shot on sight.”
Oh? Would you have ordered the national guard when white people seem to go crazy after championships? What about pumpkin fests?
Stick to 4GW theories. On race, you’re a fucking idiot.
Time to break out the Ban Hammer, I suspect.
There is no time for such faggotry.
I don’t,think Lind is a racist, but it shows even when one has the knowledge, the virtue to turn it into wisdom is still difficult.
He himself as written about when US soldiers invaded Iraqi homes, shot people, etc. He also may not have noticed the police today escalate instead of de-escalating. In black neighborhoods, you have gangs of white invaders dressed in blue that pillage, harass, kidnap and cage the residents. They say they have the right to do so at whim. And that they have no right to police themselves.
Blacks don’t want to live like that either. If there wasn’t the force apparatus of the very same failed state, they would do something. Lest we forget, Lewis Farrakan and his Fruit of Islam is capable of establishing and keeping order there.
Oh, and the Somalis have invaded Minnesota. But the FBI targets other “terrorists” there http://www.copblock.org/52454/yet-again-terrorism-claim-by-fbi-employees-is-void/
great argument, faggot
can’t have a decent debate without banning someone huh?
Name calling. Very mature.
You’re not debating. You went on a profanity-laced tirade because you didn’t like someone else’s opinion. Come back when you can write like an adult.
Lind can be accused of various things – I myself would accuse him of excessive zeal for grapeshot-dispersal – but he can’t be credibly accused of racism. His Utopian vision is black Christians and white Christians living in harmony.
Deep Blue Maryland (and especially its black-run Prince Georges County) is a big offender when it comes to militarized SWAT raids-so there’s something other than “racism” going on:
http://reason.com/archives/2010/03/01/45-swat-raids-per-day
http://www.care2.com/causes/5-unnecessary-swat-team-raids-gone-terribly-wrong.html
http://watchdogwire.com/maryland/2014/08/19/more-than-6500-swat-raids-in-maryland-since-2010/
Also note that the supervising Sgt. at the scene of the Garner incident was a black female. Yet she given immunity to testify against her subordinate! If anything, this is an indication of anti-white racism. Google Kelly Thomas, James Boyd (Albuquerque), Gilbert Collar and Douglas Zerby for recent examples of apparent anti-white racist murders of whites by cops.
Modern politicians always talk out of both sides of their mouths, so it’s not surprising that “The Cathedral” denounces the very policies it implements. I don’t think this controversy is rooted in independent power centers going rogue.It’s more likely a product of the complications caused by the varied menu of policies needed to maintain a neoliberal banksterist regime that has cultural marxism as its mandatory state ideology.
I cited several examples that backed by position. Funny how you accuse me of faggotry and then tell me write like an adult. Try again.
okay hypocrite
Wut
Crying about racism is faggotry.
I daresay that like myself, Mr. Lind doesn’t care about race, in the fundamental sense, but behavior.
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